Harry Potter And The...

[Tine]

I can't beleive that nobody has started a thread on this already.
Oh well...:rolleyes:
Discuss anything to do with the HP books here.
If you wanna discuss anything about the films, go to the forum where I shall start a HP film thread, If I'm not beaten to it.

[Porvath]

Maybe nobody started it because the last topic was raped beyond compare, and every possible topic of discussion was covered.

Plus they're a bit shit now.

[Jessica Fletcher]

This would be the first topic posted, wouldn't it? This saddens me.

Azkaban, anyway. Hope you don't expect discussion.

[Phaedra]

This would be the first topic posted, wouldn't it? This saddens me.

Azkaban, anyway. Hope you don't expect discussion.

Yup, Azkaban here as well. The movie was a piece of shite, but the book itself was undoubtedly phenomenal.

[Selphie]

Order of the Phoenix was my favourite. I liked it lots. The DA was awesome, Luna Lovegood is just plain WIN and so on. I am looking forward to book seven :)

[Phaedra]

Order of the Phoenix was my favourite. I liked it lots. The DA was awesome, Luna Lovegood is just plain WIN and so on. I am looking forward to book seven :)

I found OoP to be a bit sub-par. Harry was acting like a real jerk in the beginning, but I did like Luna. Still, I stand by The Prisoner of Azkaban. I absolutely loved Lupin, and I loved the Sirius vs. Harry plot.

[Selphie]

Harry was a bit of an ass in the beginning, but I thought it was good. I just really liked what happened in it. I loved the DA, loved the Department of Ministry fight, felt sad when Sirius was killed and I liked finding out WHY THE HELL VOLDEMORT WANTS TO KILL HARRY. :P. Propheeecy~~ Azkaban and Goblet of Fire are tied for second place. PoA is a really awesome book. <3 for Sirius~

[Phaedra]

I did enjoy Half-Blood Prince, though. Not as much as PoA, but nevertheless great. I still think Dumbledore should've died in the seventh book and not the sixth. I'm so upset that Harry is *possibly* leaving Hogwarts! That's too bad! But it was friggin funny though, that book.

[The XIII Order]

I only read 1 The goblet of fire

I had to read 1 sentence Ten times to under stand it (Boringness)

Thank god it's over :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:

[Phaedra]

I only read 1 The goblet of fire
I had to read 1 sentence Ten times to under stand it (Boringness)
Thank god it's over :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:

If you hated Harry Potter so much, then why the hell did you post here?

[The XIII Order]

If you hated Harry Potter so much, then why the hell did you post here?

The real question is why did i read the book

[Phaedra]

The real question is why did i read the book

Not the most important question, but nevertheless a question.

Yes, why the hell did you read Harry Potter in the first place?

[The XIII Order]

Not the most important question, but nevertheless a question.
Yes, why the hell did you read Harry Potter in the first place?

I didint know the book was gonna suck that bad!

Well......it wassint all bad

[Phaedra]

I didint know the book was gonna suck that bad!
Well......it wassint all bad

Well, you should at least try to read form the friggin beginning. Of course nothing's going to make sense if you don't have previous knowledge of the books.

[The XIII Order]

Well, you should at least try to read form the friggin beginning. Of course nothing's going to make sense if you don't have previous knowledge of the books.


I can't read the other books, Havint i sufferd enogh???
:confused:

[Phaedra]

Well, okay, I'll let you have that. In the meantime, you can still read some other books like the Inheritance series (i.e. Eragon, Eldest, Empire) or you could try the Bartimaeus one (my friend read it, and she thinks it's absolutely fantastic. I haven't read it, so I can't give you an opinion on it.)

[The XIII Order]

Well, okay, I'll let you have that. In the meantime, you can still read some other books like the Inheritance series (i.e. Eragon, Eldest, Empire) or you could try the Bartimaeus one (my friend read it, and she thinks it's absolutely fantastic. I haven't read it, so I can't give you an opinion on it.)


Never!!!!!

The writers of harry potter just aint' tryin' anymore
i'm not payin 17 dollars for one book, Writers, there the real crooks

[Phaedra]

What are you, Beyonce, book-phobic?? You refused every single book I mentioned.

[The XIII Order]

What are you, Beyonce, book-phobic?? You refused every single book I mentioned.

Books Suck do not deny it!!! k?

[Phaedra]

Books Suck do not deny it!!! k?

books suck? what blasphemies do you utter? Let me demonstrate the power of books using a simple equation:

books = knowledge = power = money

[The XIII Order]

books suck? what blasphemies do you utter? Let me demonstrate the power of books using a simple equation:
books = knowledge = power = money

:confused:

Well i sorta ment harry potter books suck becuse there so long

[Phaedra]

so what if they're long? more suspense to go all around! I love 'em!

[The XIII Order]

Long = good

Long & Boring = bad

[Phaedra]

They seem long and boring, yes, but in the end, they're really valuable pieces of information you'll need later on. This rule applies most often in the Lemony Snicket books, though.

[The XIII Order]

They seem long and boring, yes, but in the end, they're really valuable pieces of information you'll need later on. This rule applies most often in the Lemony Snicket books, though.

maby your right but it's still boring so !N0 !

[Phaedra]

Well, there's no need to get snappy about it. I'm just trying to explain to you that there's a lot of things you don't understand about GoF BECAUSE you didn't bother to read the first three.

That's all.

[The XIII Order]

Well, there's no need to get snappy about it. I'm just trying to explain to you that there's a lot of things you don't understand about GoF BECAUSE you didn't bother to read the first three.
That's all.

i know more then you do about GoF, go on! ask me anything!

[Phaedra]

okay...what was the spell Harry used to gain access to his broom during the first task?

[The XIII Order]

okay...what was the spell Harry used to gain access to his broom during the first task?

uuuhhh

i don't know

[Phaedra]

Haha! The spell was "Accio"! So, you don't know as more about GoF than me.

[The XIII Order]

Haha! The spell was "Accio"! So, you don't know as more about GoF than me.


I know alot about it

But i'm know sience nerd like you who memorize ever frikin line!

[Phaedra]

Well, being a nerd sure beats being clueless.

[The XIII Order]

Well, being a nerd sure beats being clueless.

I'm not clueless

I just know more about GoF

[Phaedra]

If you knew more than me, you'd be able to answer my question.

Next question: Who gave Harry the Gillyweed for the second task?

[The XIII Order]

If you knew more than me, you'd be able to answer my question.
Next question: Who gave Harry the Gillyweed for the second task?

I Don't know

[Phaedra]

The answer was Dobby. He stole it from Snape's stores to give to Harry.

Last question:

How many locks were on Alastor Moody's chest?

[The XIII Order]

The answer was Dobby. He stole it from Snape's stores to give to Harry.
Last question:
How many locks were on Alastor Moody's chest?

I got a qeustion for you how many licks toes it take to get to the center of the totsy pop?

[Phaedra]

I haven't the foggiest idea. I hate tootsie pops, they make me throw up. Besides, that's a stupid question, because there are so many factors at stake, because it depends on the person licking the tootsie pop. They have different ways of consuming a tootsie pop. Not everyone licks the same way.

[The XIII Order]

I haven't the foggiest idea. I hate tootsie pops, they make me throw up. Besides, that's a stupid question, because there are so many factors at stake, because it depends on the person licking the tootsie pop. They have different ways of consuming a tootsie pop. Not everyone licks the same way.

Wrong,

Corect Anwer: 512

HAHA!!!

[Phaedra]

What do tootsie pops have to do with Harry Potter, by the way? Knwoing how many licks it takes to get to center of a tootsie offers you no benefits. None whatsoever.

[The XIII Order]

What do tootsie pops have to do with Harry Potter, by the way? Knwoing how many licks it takes to get to center of a tootsie offers you no benefits. None whatsoever.

Alright There are 3 locks

[Phaedra]

No there are seven.

Ooh, burn!

Or should I say,

Ooh, moisture!

(Karen, if you're reading this, Maria told me about it)

And I'm fairly sure you're not my friend Karen.

[The XIII Order]

Ok I declare you the Champion of Harry potter (not)

[Phaedra]

Ok I declare you the Champion of Harry potter (not)

Do you have some sort of attitude problem? Because yu're really starting to lose the point.

[The XIII Order]

Do you have some sort of attitude problem? Because yu're really starting to lose the point.

sorry just joke'in around

[Phaedra]

well, oaky...o you want to continue the GoF trivia?

[The XIII Order]

well, oaky...o you want to continue the GoF trivia?

sure I scene the movie 2 times

[Phaedra]

I'm going by the book, not the movie though...I hope you're prepared.

This was definitely not in the movie:

What was the answer to the sphinx's riddle in the third task?

[The XIII Order]

UUUhhhh

The answer is: Sphinx never had a riddle

[Phaedra]

No, the answer was "A Spider". Yes, the sphinx did have a riddle.
Next question:
Name one of the ingredients that Snape mentioned had disappeared from his private potions cupboard. (p.s. don't say gillyweed)

[The XIII Order]

No, the answer was "A Spider". Yes, the sphinx did have a riddle.
Next question:
Name one of the ingredients that Snape mentioned had disappeared from his private potions cupboard. (p.s. don't say gillyweed)

I thought you said you wernt going by the movie :biglaugh:

[Phaedra]

that was actually in the book as well. now answer me.

[The XIII Order]

that was actually in the book as well. now answer me.

EEEEEEERRR uuuhhh disabolex

[Phaedra]

. . .

actually, I was thinking more along the lines of shredded Boomslang skin or maybe lacewings.

[The XIII Order]

. . .
actually, I was thinking more along the lines of shredded Boomslang skin or maybe lacewings.

/???????????/:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Phaedra]

well okay. but snape did mention boomslang skin in the movie.

[The XIII Order]

well okay. but snape did mention boomslang skin in the movie.

?????????????????????????

[Phaedra]

...

next question:

Name three important characters that were not shown in the movie.

[The XIII Order]

...
next question:
Name three important characters that were not shown in the movie.

I can name more: Unfair question

[Phaedra]

you read the book, did you not? can you recall at least three characters that did not appear? (hint: one of them was an old quidditch player)

[The XIII Order]

you read the book, did you not? can you recall at least three characters that did not appear? (hint: one of them was an old quidditch player)

i don't know

i only read half

[Phaedra]

if you remember the quidditch world cup, you'll know that two of the characters I requested are present there. at the world cup.

(hint: the old quidditch player likes to gamble)

[The XIII Order]

UUUUUUhhhh semour skinner?

[Phaedra]

...who? I think he was on one of the teams...I'm talking about a retired quidditch player. his first name begins with L. he likes to gamble with goblins. as for the other two, they are both of the same species. one is ecstatic while the other is miserable.

[The XIII Order]

...who? I think he was on one of the teams...I'm talking about a retired quidditch player. his first name begins with L. he likes to gamble with goblins. as for the other two, they are both of the same species. one is ecstatic while the other is miserable.

Harry potter?

[Phaedra]

His name begins with L, not H. for the other two, when I say of the same species, I mean to imply that neither of them are humans.

In any case, goodnight, Beyonce. It's midnight, I'm very tired, and I have school tomorrow. PM if you figure it out.

[The XIII Order]

Lismore? or Larxenax



Edit by Minako - Please don't spam the thread anymore, you two.

[Selphie]

Beyonce, if you don't read them, don't post. It's one thing to come and say your opinions. I think Halo_Kitty and I [since we're really the only two posting in here, really] are capable of handling a debate of why you like or dislike Goblet of Fire. To say that all books suck... makes me wonder why you even came in this part of the forum?

I say because you just want post count. :P.

ANYWAY, Halo_Kitty: I think Dumbledore should have died in the sixth, now Harry really realizes only HE can kill Voldemort. At least that's the impression I got. And, I'm sad Harry's leaving Hogwarts too. I wanted him to stay for his last year!! But, I guess he needs to go deal with Voldemort... I can't wait to see him, Ron, and Hermione go to Uncle Vernon and Aunt Petunia's. :X

I read some information on the seventh book, some of the VERY FEW quotes JKR has said about the seventh book. Supposedly, more known characters will die in the beginning of the book.
http://www.madamscoop.org/themes/book7.htm
^That's where I read the info, by the way, in case you wanna check it out.

Might I ask what your opinion on Snape's loyalty is? I'm not really sure what I think... Hrm, I dunno, I kind of think Snape's just a royal ass and really is on Voldemorts side... but I've read peoples comments on why he could still be good and it makes my head hurt. XD

[Tine]

Thanks for the link Selphie, a very interesting read indeed.

and the part about Snape, it's a very good question. JK Rowling has created alot of mystery about him. But That's always good.

[Tasha]

I'm a pretty big harry potter fan. My grandma bought me the first 4 books for christmas in 01, and ive been hooked ever since. It's really hard to pick a favorite because it's like all one big story, so I dunno. but i picked goblet of fire, i really got into that one.

[bond4154]

HP is overrated, but that doesn't stop it from being a good book. I think my favorite is the Prisoner of Azkaban.

BTW, I now know where Beyonce and Halo Kitty get their post counts. XD

[AmishOpiate]

I actually liked the second one, I know that is not a popular opinion, but I thought the mystery angle was cool, plus the ending had a really neat set piece. Strange, it would be easier for me to write what my least fave book was, I guess I have been on the internet too long.

[Selphie]

Ooh, which book you liked least would be a good discussion.
I actually disliked Chamber of Secrets most.
Professor Lockheart was annoying, the Chamber business was a little silly, WTF HARRY GETS A SWORD?! And I couldn't care less for Ginny. X__X. I just wasn't as interested in Chamber of Secrets as I was with the others.

Did you guys know that originally Chamber of Secrets and Half-Blood Prince were going to be one book? A lot of the plot from HBP was going to be in CoS. It was even going to be called Half-Blood Prince, but JKR took it out/changed the title because it would be giving us too much information right at the beginning.

Interesting.

[AmishOpiate]

After reading the book, I hated that HBP title, I mean, I just thought it was sort of a lazy way to cook up some mystery. The story was good though, the tone shift is a little tough to get used to, but once you do, it is all gravy. I really liked the way she brought it back to the character relationships, much overdue in my book.

I prolly liked OOTP the least, partly because of its length, and partly because of the turns the story takes. That said, its still one of my fave books in general, it just doesnt stack up very well in the Potter series, IMHO.

Come on, you can't hate on Ginny :).

[DarkEternal]

I too find OotP the worst, it was just a real slog to go through it considering it was angst, angst and more angst.

I can't say what my fav would be but I do think highly of Prizoner from Azkaban and Goblet of Fire.

[Selphie]

Come on, you can't hate on Ginny :).
Yes I can. :P

She's really irritating to me. I've never found her funny, cute, or anything besides annoying and a silly side character. :\ She's not stupid, she's very smart... but she really bothers me. Same with Snape. I know everyone likes him BUT I WISH FOR HIM TO DISAPPEAR. >:|

[Phaedra]

Ginny was probably the most annoying and pointless character I ever met. Snape is awesome, but I don't like the fact that he murdered Dumbledore. It's strange, though...my mom says that even though Snape killed Dumbledore, she still thinks that Snape is a good guy. and the worst book is probably OotP in my opinion, anyhoo. I just don't it was as well written as the other books, like PoA.

[DarkEternal]

Snape is a good character because he's an enigma, no-one can tell who's side he's on. That point will probably be a big thing in the last book, whenever that comes out.

The only thing I find stupid about Ginny is the way the Harry&Ginny thing ended, it's not that realistic...

[Phaedra]

The only thing I find stupid about Ginny is the way the Harry&Ginny thing ended, it's not that realistic...

agreed. it was very subtle, and in the end, it didn't make much of a difference in the plot. Who's left, then? Cho's out of the question, Ginny's dumped him, Hermione's after Ron...what about Luna? or is she already with someone else?

[Selphie]

I think Harry's too busy trying to kick Voldemort's ass to bother with relationships, and to be honest, I think that's a good idea.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

Yeah, he has too much to do in the next book.
I always thought that he and Luna would get together though, just because he said that he didn't mind being around her in the end of the Order Of The Phoenix.

[Sandie]

Order of the Phoenix is my favourite one, though I like all latter ones especially. Yeah yeah, Harry whined OMG. It just added depth to his character. Besides I mean come on, you're like 16, and this evil wizard king wants to kill you and everybody hates you... Also I loved Luna, Umbridge, the whole DA - war against the ministry thing.. It was refreshing. Also learnt more about Snape <3

Now can we plz have a separate thread for the rumours? I find the site Selph posted very good! Direct quotes..

[Selphie]

Haha a thread for rumours would be awesome. Discussing them and what not would be totally fun. >D I'd say lets discuss it in this thread, but if we had a seperate one we could talk about spoilers. :O!

And I totally love that site for it's awesome quotes. It made my brain think and OMG I'M ITCHING TO START A THREAD AND ASK A SPOILERIFFIC QUESTION!

I mean hi. I heard that filming for the OoTp movie is starting this month, if anyone cares! Go go OOTP!

[Tine]

Ooh, good. S' bout time they started filming it.

I think my fave HP book is OotP, the fifth, because it was just...well, I dont know, I just like that one.

To me, the sixth book felt different to the other books. I dont know what is is about it, it just feels different.

[Nicola]

Half Blood Prince is the best. I like its maturity (Harry has grown up) and the background information regarding Tom Riddle. I also loved Draco and Snape in this book. Its starting to get really gritty!

[Tine]

Welcome Back, Nicola.

I really enjoyed the scenes with the memories in. The older memories, the ones that Dumbledore had obtained. I liked the idea of Harry exploring Voldemort's past and beginnings, and how he came from the oprhanage in London to Hogwarts.

[Nicola]

You're still here Endreth? I was hoping you would be lost in translation. Ah well :heart:

OotP is actually quite difficult to get through, not because of it being long or anything, but because of Harry being such a repulsive character. I think you have to like the character in order to read about them and Harry was just awful in that book. It also droned on and went on so many tangents. I couldn't even tell you the plot of that book and good luck to Steve Kloves who will try to write the script for the film (actually I think he has already done it).

[~SapphireStar~]

I prefered The Prisoner of Azkaban to the rest because to me it was much darker and Sirus Black was introduced to us.

[Nicola]

With that theory in mind SS, you like OofP the least? :lol: Prisoner of Azkaban was good, but I prefer the later books as Harry gets older. It's hard to relate to a 13 year old boy. I prefer some maturity.

[Omi]

Well if the books get older with you basically they are pretty good, oh btw whats the difference between the "adult" version of the 6th book and the "children" version :| i've been told its only the cover!

[Phaedra]

That IS the only difference between the adult and normal versions. I say, why pay more for a prettier cover when you can usually just download it off the net?

[~SapphireStar~]

With that theory in mind SS, you like OofP the least?
Yeah, Im dreading the movie :(

[Omi]

Im dreading watching a movie with Ron being attacked by brains!!! If you dont know what im on about re-read Harry Potter 5, the bit in the ministry

[Phaedra]

Yes, I remember the brains. Ron sounded a lot like he was on crack or something...I wonder how the whole event will turn out in the movie? Then again, I might not want to know...

[Nicola]

They will probably miss it out of the film. They have better things to concentrate on, they are just leading onto Sirius' death right around then, comic relief is not necessary.

[Selphie]

The brains were sooo funny. I was laughing really hard. He was acting totally drunk or something, "LOLS ACCCIOOO BRAAAIN."

I totally hope thats in the movie ;_;

[Tine]

The brains were sooo funny. I was laughing really hard. He was acting totally drunk or something, "LOLS ACCCIOOO BRAAAIN."

I totally hope thats in the movie ;_;

Yeah, that would be totally funny. Though I can foresee them not putting that in, or maybe as an extra deleted scene of the DVD when it's released.

[Nicola]

They will try to keep it at a PG rating or 12A. Moving brains latching on to a face like something out of an Alien movie will not help its cause.

Funny though, it would be.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

What will really annoy people is that if they leave out the kiss with Cho Chang!

[Omi]

they miss most out of the films, its quite annoying, i'd rather pay £10 more to see everything thats in the book in the film

[Nicola]

What will really annoy people is that if they leave out the kiss with Cho Chang!

They won't miss that. They have already spoken about it. Radcliffe has said many times he is looking forward to that scene with Katie.

[Scott]

IMO goblet of fire is the best, it was also the best movie IMO,
I think Order of the Pheonix is a really good book but kinda lacking in action and Prisoner of Azkaban being a close second to best.

[Placid Heart]

I like the Prisoner of Azkaban because of the hippogriffs and the whole Sirius black thing .

ps . I don't know if anyone answered this already but there was a book called the Philosopher's stone ? I thought it was the sorcerors stone ?

[Scott]

Sorcerors stone is the American version of the book im sure, i think it was complained that they couldnt pronounce it right or something so they changed it.

[Nicola]

Ah! It's the Philosopher's Stone! This Soceror business was for americans who they feared wouldn't know the meaning of the word so they changed it. The poor actors had to re shoot every scene in the first film when 'Philosopher's Stone' was mentioned. It's truely, and originally, called 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone'. It really annoys me that they changed it. What makes American kids different from British kids regarding the meaning and pronounciation of 'Philosopher'?

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

Why did they have to re-shoot every thing? It was called The philosopher's stone well before the films were even thought about!

[charliepanayi]

With the book titles being different in the UK and US, I guess to avoid confusion they had to cater for both sides - would have sounded weird to US film audiences if they had talked about the Philosophers Stone etc
It's not a new thing for a film to have different titles in the UK and USA, though admittedly when that happens they don't usually need to do lots of scenes twice over as the title keeps getting mentioned.

[Scott]

Yeah, but as far as i know the other films havent been renamed in America so that problems outta the way.

[Nicola]

Why did they have to re-shoot every thing? It was called The philosopher's stone well before the films were even thought about!

They didn't have to re-shoot everything, just the bits where they mentioned the stone. Which must have been about 4 times if that. It was called Philosopher's Stone everywhere else, but when it was released in america (the book) they renamed it 'Sorcerors'. Very stupid, yes. But because the book was called that in America they had to do the same with the film. Despite Americanisation, PS has been able to keep its original name widely known.

It does annoy me when I read 'Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone' Ergh.

[Laura]

Half-Blood Prince is my favourite book so far.I have all the HP books, and I've been to see all 3 movies.

*fandomness* :D

[Nicola]

Isn't there four films, Laura? Can't be too big of a fan if you let the fourth film pass you by? :lol:

[Tine]

Sorcerors stone is the American version of the book im sure, i think it was complained that they couldnt pronounce it right or something so they changed it.

Ha ha ha. Moronic americans as usual. Though I think Nicola's right about it, there is nothing different between us and the american kids.

Sorry for going off-topic there.

[Nicola]

Ha ha ha. Moronic americans as usual. They always utterly corrupt everything they don't undertsand or can't have, They just can't help it.
Though I think Nicola's right about it, there is nothing different between us and the american kids. Except the american kind are almost triple our weight.


What a shitty post from you, Endreth. Britains case of obesity is getting worse and quickly reaching the same level as the Americans. We are the second worst in Europe. Americans are moronic? I'm surprised at you, Endreth.

[Tine]

Why are you suprised? I'm not american. And you're right, it was rather harsh of me to be so cruel. I can't help it.

Previous post edited. Just for you and your peace of mind.

[Nicola]

Whether you are American is irrelevent, I was surprised at you being so closed. That's all.

Moving on.

[Tine]

Grindelwald and Hitler: Connection?

Ok the 2WW ended in 1945, and Dumbledore defeated Gindlewald in 1945. I was just thinking that there could be a connection, between the two.

[Enigma]

That's an interesting observation. Others had observed the same so they asked her in an interview. She said it wasn't a coincidence. I don't have the link to what she said exactly.

I used to enjoy The Chamber of Secrets because of the involvement of Tom Riddle. Once it got to The Order of Phoenix, however, the series matured and I could no longer read the earlier ones. Besides, Half-Blood Prince includes more than enough of Tom Riddle's character to make up for The Chamber of Secrets. I would have to choose the Half-Blood Prince. Not only for the Voldemort content but because of its growth. I also found Draco Malfoy fascinating. Who would have thought the audience would be moved to pity for that awful character.

[Avarice XIII]

Half-Blood Prince all the way. GOF used to be my favorite, I read it 13 times. now, Im on my 7th reading of H-BP. Its just so deep, in LAYERS...What with the mystery as to what Malfoy was doing, the Half-Blood Prince being Snape (who'd have thought?!) and Harry being in love with Ginny....(saw THAT comming.) Gosh, I just LOVE this one the most. <3

[Axel]

Half-Blodd Prince is just amazing.The Prince's Book, the death of Dumbledore,the betrayal of Snape(he was the Half-Blodd Prince:p:p)...the passion that Harry lives with Ginny...a fantastic book...

[~SapphireStar~]

Come on guys, use the spoilers. This sections to discover peoples fav HP books, some people havent yet read HBP, believe it or not.

[Dhóchas]

I'm thinking about buying the books, but I still have reservations about doing so. I'll contemplate over it a little more, and then make my decision.

[Enigma]

What are your reservations? Without saying so, your post is practically spam, though I am interested.

[Mr.Win]

Oh my Gog i love harry potter and the philosiphers stone its one amazing book and film.

[Sammo]

I'm a part-time fan of HP books. I read them when they come out, but aside from that I'm not particularly fanatical about it. My favourite book is most probably the most recent one actually, I got through that the quickest (not literally obviously, seeing as the first one was..well, really short). My least favourite book was probably the order of the phoenix. It didn't hook me at all and really put me off of the series, it took me months to finish it in fact...meh, at least the 6th book made up for it!

Side note..has the title or any details of the final book been released yet? Even a release date?

[~SapphireStar~]

The only thing Ive heard in connecition with the next book is the fact that JK ran out of paper and spent 45 minutes trying to track some down to continue.
http://www.enjoyfrance.com/content/view/329/31/
But she said its coming along smoothly. May be awhile before we find out.

[Dhóchas]

What are your reservations? Without saying so, your post is practically spam, though I am interested.
Well, I've bought a lot of books that haven't managed to keep my attention all the way through. I don't wanna spend a ridiculous amount of money on books I'm not goin' to read anyway.

I do not appreciate your attitude, please apologize.

[Enigma]

I don't think I will apologise as I don't see what I said that was so offensive. I was sincerely interested in what your reservations were. :confused: I wanted to put you at ease about whatever was stopping you. If it's because you I suggested your post was spam, I think I was right in saying so, you said nothing to add to the discussion. You basically posted saying 'I haven't read them'. That's not useful. I certainly didn't say it to be offensive, I was just trying to get more out of your post, since you normally post interesting things.

If you are concerned about not hooking on to the books, I don't think you should worry about it. It's not the best selling series of all time for nothing, nor does it have the biggest loyal fanbase for nothing. Whilst I'm not sure about the first two books, the third book will hook you for sure. I was far too young when I read the first two books, I thought they were great then, but after the maturity from the latest books they seem a bit too childish to go back and read. The last time I read them was seven years ago...

[AmishOpiate]

Well, I've bought a lot of books that haven't managed to keep my attention all the way through. I don't wanna spend a ridiculous amount of money on books I'm not goin' to read anyway.
I do not appreciate your attitude, please apologize.

You're point is fair enough, but this thread is about what is your fave Potter book, why are you posting here if you are not a fan of the series? I think people get tired about defending their opinions, or being attacked, however passive-aggresivley, for liking these books. If you are not a fan, that's fine, but posting about how Potter is not your cup of tea is spam within the context of this thread.

[Avarice XIII]

Come on guys, use the spoilers. This sections to discover peoples fav HP books, some people havent yet read HBP, believe it or not.


Opps...Im sorry! Totally unintentional...Spam or not, I should apologize. :(

[Bloodlust]

I actually don't like the Harry Potter series at all. I really don't know what it is exactly about these books that causes me to hate them so much. I guess I just dislike the story/characters and it seems just plain boring to me at times. And sorry if I'm violating the rules by not talking about my favorite book in the series.

[Dhóchas]

You're point is fair enough, but this thread is about what is your fave Potter book, why are you posting here if you are not a fan of the series? I think people get tired about defending their opinions, or being attacked, however passive-aggresivley, for liking these books. If you are not a fan, that's fine, but posting about how Potter is not your cup of tea is spam within the context of this thread.
I thought this was a Harry Potter thread period? And I never said I didn't like Harry Potter. Please don't assume anything, it makes you look like a fool. And yeah, you just spammed...but, I guess since you're a fan of the series it's okay?

[Dunky]

The Order of the Pheonix is deliciously angsty. Deliciously.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

HBP just for its ending (so dramatic).

[Zaden Star]

Order of the Phoenbix, to me Umbride was a bitch and that made me love and hate her, I thought the 1st one was called the Sorcerrer's Stone not the Philosopher's, too much Full Metal Alchemist here.

[~SapphireStar~]

I thought the 1st one was called the Sorcerrer's Stone not the Philosopher's, too much Full Metal Alchemist here.
HP appeared before FMA did and the Philosopher's Stone theory has been around for centuries. The first HP was known as the Philosopher's Stone, but because Americans cant pronunce Philosopher, it was changed to Sorcerrer. IMO Philosopher sounds better because it doesnt sound too magical and mysterious.

[Nem]

I have never actually had any desire whatsoever to read a harry potter book. They just don't appeal to me, they've always seemed like childrens books, so on the shelf of the childrens section they should stay.

[AmishOpiate]

I have never actually had any desire whatsoever to read a harry potter book. They just don't appeal to me, they've always seemed like childrens books, so on the shelf of the childrens section they should stay.

I disagree with that, the Potter books have a good enough story to appeal to all ages, my mom is in her sixties and still looks forward to every new book. I don't think you are ever too old to enjoy a good story, and I still think Dr. Suess is a great poet, just depends on how open your mind is.

[Egnar]

but because Americans cant pronunce Philosopher, it was changed to Sorcerrer.
Since when can't Americans pronounce Philosopher?

And I have to agree with you Nem, maybe the first 1-2 books but I would think it would be very hard for a kid/child to follow some of the stuff going on in the later books, way too overwhelming to grasp any more then just the basic concepts of what is going on.

[~SapphireStar~]

Since when can't Americans pronounce Philosopher?
Its the truth, dont take it out on me.

Both the book and the motion picture were released in the United States with the title Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, ostensibly because the publishers were concerned that the original title would not instantly give the book an impression of magic and fantasy to the American public.

[Bloodlust]

Its the truth, dont take it out on me.
Right....I have never encountered an American that couldn't pronounce philosopher, but um okay...whatever you say. :p

[Enigma]

they've always seemed like childrens books, so on the shelf of the childrens section they should stay.

I can't help being mildly irritated everytime I read something like this. J.K. didn't actually write these books for children, it was the publishers after reading the first book that marketed it as such. As one would find out if they read on, it's hardly, if at all, aimed at children.

J.K. should have discussed with her publishers what direction this series was taking before they so readily marketed it towards children. But then, J.K. was so desperate for a publisher I'm sure she would have taken any kind of marketing.

It's fair enough if it doesn't appeal to you, but don't judge the series to be childish before you have even picked up any of the books. The films do not represent any of the book's depths or true themes. They scarcely follow any of the story lines in the books these days.

[Mord Sith]

You shouldn't be surprised that the series is pretty much universally judged as children's books. I would definitely say that they were aimed at children in the beginning, yet it's growing popularity with older people have definitely made an impact. You only have to read the books and realise the transition.

Personally myself, I'd class them as books for younger people; not only for their content, but also for the style of writing. Of course, they're not so childish in that sense, but when I compare Harry Potter to any other fantasy series; it DOES seem childish; obviously because they hero is a young boy. Therefore, people would be right to judge it so, but I don't think it should be areason not to read them. They've personally been wonderful to read, in my opinion.

Anyhow, Goblet of Fire wins hands down for me. It's just so full of action that you could really never get bored.

[Enigma]

It doesn't surprise me, it mildly irritates me.

I would never call them 'adult' books I would call them universal. It's obvious that J.K. will not venture to far into sexuality or other adult themes but she does explore death, murder, torture, revenge, betrayal, racism, propoganda, depression, loss etc. Her writing is not advanced, I'd be the first to admit that, it's written in a way that it is accessible to anybody. Like I said in the Final Fantasy VII thread, universal products like this contain something for every type of audience. The children may not understand some underlying issues, they may miss some jokes, but it will not retract from their enjoyment of the books. They don't know what they are missing. As for the things they have missed, they are being enjoyed by the adults.

I figured that something aimed at children would be written in such a manner, but it's not. If people who have read the entire series so far tells me they still find it childish, fair enough, but until they have done the presumption will continue to irritate me ;) Having said that, I am still to find someone who has read it all to say that the series is primarily for children. If they do, it will be interesting to hear their case. :D

[Zaden Star]

There are adult versions of the books, and I do see sex, in it, Harry Says he had drems about Ginny, that he'll be scared for Ron to find out, and that drema was a wet dream.

[Christina Bryant-Star]

The books aren't definetly for children, don't say kids because kids means baby goat, look it up in the dictionary.
I find the HP books to have a lot of realism and fantasy in it at the same time, you might be able to compare yourself with one or more of the characters from the book, me I'm like Ginny I suppose.

[AmishOpiate]

There are adult versions of the books, and I do see sex, in it, Harry Says he had drems about Ginny, that he'll be scared for Ron to find out, and that drema was a wet dream.

Ok, wtf are you talking about freak? If you are reading 'adult' versions of the HP books, you need a lot of therapy. The books are for kids, they are for all ages, god.

[Nicola]

I was having a conversation with my best friend last night about the romances in the books we had recently read and we seriously started discussing...



If Voldemort's a virgin or not.

Yes, we should get a life and all that, but it was hilarious and we started talking about Snape and Dumbledore and we actually found it really funny. But anyway:

We were totally opposite in opinion. I think Voldemort is definitely a virgin since I think he would never have felt the desire to pursue such things since he just isn't normal.

My friend on the other hand thinks he would have been at it all the time since he was so handsome and liked getting his way etc. My friend didn't see any reason as to why he wouldn't.

In all seriousness. Discuss. :lol:

[AmishOpiate]

Its the truth, dont take it out on me.

There is nothing in that Wiki quote to suggest Americans cannot pronounce 'philosopher', so I don't follow why you posted it in the first place. Changing the name seems more like a marketing choice, to me at least.

[skilled keyblada]

my votes in for the philosephers stone, it always seems like the first out of series is my favorite.

[Egnar]

Its the truth, dont take it out on me.

Its the truth, dont take it out on me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Both the book and the motion picture were released in the United States with the title Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, ostensibly because the publishers were concerned that the original title would not instantly give the book an impression of magic and fantasy to the American public.

Ya, thats much different then 'we cannot prounounce philosopher and I can understand the reasoning as it's not a common word, atleast here.

[Enigma]

Nicola; you and Adam are really sad. :hmph:

He is neither, as he is fiction, and since J.K. hasn't gone into such... detail... we can safely assume that the question of his virginity doesn't exist. You could ask J.K. but I'd bet it would be the first time she ever thought of such a thing.
*******

SS may have been referring to the fact that the name change was the truth, not the matter if it can be pronounced or not. I heard they changed it because they didn't think Americans would know what Philosopher meant. Meh.

[Zaden Star]

You know I was right don't you remember from the Half Blood Prince when Harry said that, read it again, you'll see I'm right Opiate.

[~SapphireStar~]

I have read in an interview with JK that the publishers changed the title because Americans cant pronuce it. I cant find any link for it, but trust me, Im not the only one who has heard this.

[AmishOpiate]

I have read in an interview with JK that the publishers changed the title because Americans cant pronuce it. I cant find any link for it, but trust me, Im not the only one who has heard this.

Yes, you are. Please drop this unless you can provide proof, or else we will just assume you are talking for the sake of attention. Also, it's 'pronounce,' not 'pronuce.' I guess people in the UK can't spell, hmmm?

[~SapphireStar~]

Christ I was fast typing. and how dare you say Im saying this for attention. Why the fuck would I say it for attaention, Im posting this for a point. I cant find a link because it was a magazine that had this interview. But I have read that it was changed because Americans cannot pronounce Philosopher ans also because the title may have seemed misleaded to an American audeince.

Why would I go and make something like that up? For attention? I dont think so.

[AmishOpiate]

If you can't back it up then just let it go, why do you have such a hard time accepting that. To me, as an American, it is offensive to suggest we are so stupid in this country we cannot pronounce the word 'philosopher.' From your earlier Wiki reference, I am just going to assume you got confused, and misunderstood why the title was changed.

'Christ I was fast typing' is not a sentence.

[~SapphireStar~]

As I said I was fast typing and was meant to place a comma there. Happy? I dont care if you find it offensive, that wasnt my intention. I have read that in an interview, Im not confused. Be offended all you want. Finished.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

I am afraid I heard the same thing but I do not know where.
Maybe we should get off that topic now!

Did you hear that the last word in the last book is scar?
You don't get too much info on the scar but I am starting to think it's a link between Harry and Voldemort.

[Ansem The Wise]

My favorite book is the Half-Blood Prince. I really enjoyed the maturity of it, and nearly pissed myself when I read that the password to the common room is "abstinence"! It was also layered, and covered a lot of information about Voldemort and miscellaneous facts and clues to the seventh book. I still can't decide whether Snape is good or bad, though...

Oh, and BTW, most educated Americans can pronounce "Philosopher", even though most of us are fat and big-headed (and note I said Educated Americans).

[Punishment]

I thought Goblet of Fire revealed a lot and was action filled. Half-Blood Prince comes in a close second butDumbledore's death was very predictable. I really expected him to die sooner anyways.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

Yeah, it was very predictable. As soon as I heard that someone else was going to die I knew it was Dumbledore.
He had to die, he was to protective of Harry.

[Clenz]

I loved HBP the best. I think it was because they started answering more questions instead of raising more.

[Paradise of Birds]

no the story is not childish it is great and i thank JKrowling for putting my foot on the right road to write stories......i read the whole series and still am each book for ten times at lest and i enjoyed them... well i like them starting from harry potter and the goblet of fire and going up the one, two, three are not my liking test

[Jejunum Jake]

I'll ignore SapphireStar's inane ramblings and move on.

There are adult versions of the books, and I do see sex, in it, Harry Says he had drems about Ginny, that he'll be scared for Ron to find out, and that drema was a wet dream.

No, it wasn't. There are no adult versions of the books. There are versions sold in the UK with "Adult" covers, but by "Adult" they simply mean that the covers are darker and more mysterious, portraying the books as serious novels rather than the regular versions (i.e. the ones universally marketed) with their bright designs and whimsical pictures adorning the covers. There is no difference between the two versions: only the cover art is different.

Also, Harry's dream was not wet. It was a completely tame dream about a girl he liked and that is all. He did the exact same thing with Cho Chang in Order of the Phoenix. There is nothing sexual about it. If you're looking for anything remotely sexual in these stories then you should seriously consider growing up, because that's just immature.

[Paradise of Birds]

agree.... and harry is a teenager behaving like all teenagers do liking and doing nothing more than SNOGGING.... hehe... his dreams are kids dreams they contain no...* * ... in them. i had such dreams when i was at his age.......LoL *blush*

[V_Translanka]

I picked Prisoner because I'm a sucker for time travel (GO CHRONO TRIGGER!!!)...It's also the best of the movies...Seeing how so much of Goblet got butchered down...because the book was so long, I guess...

The books are pretty good...I think I'd like them better if I'd read them when I was younger (had they been around then, that is)...But it's still nice to see how Rowling's writing actually gets better and kind of matures (more or less) as the books progress. Although I still can't stand the few sloppy adverbs thrown about every now and then (most prevelent in the earlier books)...They make me cry.

I also find it weird that English people in the book are referring to it as "soccer"...but I guess that's what I get for reading the American version? Eh, whatever...stupid purist in me I guess...

my n00b questions (don't worry for spoilers, I've read all 6):

1) So, when's 7 come out?

2) Will it be the last?

3) What do those initials R.A.B. on that paper in the fake horcrux stand for? My thought was Regulus Black...but isn't he supposed to be dead? Do we know his middle name?

[Holly]

The books are great! I mean just wait for a while to buy them, I mean I've found Harry Potter hardback books at Wal-mart for $10 before, and it was book 6 I found for $10. I love to read, and I should start reading more. I personally think book 6 was great even though my favorite person died.

[Dunky]

my n00b questions (don't worry for spoilers, I've read all 6):

1) So, when's 7 come out?

2) Will it be the last?

3) What do those initials R.A.B. on that paper in the fake horcrux stand for? My thought was Regulus Black...but isn't he supposed to be dead? Do we know his middle name?

There are some fantastic articles on MuggleNet you should have a read of. They're entertaining at least and it's cool to see people go so deep and indepth into a series of books. The articles are overly persuasive and clutching at very loose straws in terms of finding proof for every point, but the ideas dealt with and the questions raised are hella exciting.

[Dunky]

My questions:
1) Who will be the replacement Slytherin Head of House?
I think it's safe to assume Snape's not coming back...
This one's easy though, it's got to be Slughorn. He's had the post before and we've never heard of any other teacher who's from the house of S.

2) Who will be the replacement Griffindor Head of House?
Minerva's Headmaster now; so it'll have to be someone else. I've no idea on this. It can't be Sprout, Flitwick or Slughorn. I don't think it'll be Binns on acount of his ghostness. Trelawney never struck me as a Griffindor type. Hagrid seems like a good choice, though I'm not sure Minerva has quite the unfailing confidence in him that Dumbledore did.

3) Who will be the replacement Vice Principal?
I would've said Snape was next in line (even though he's quite young as the Hogwarts staff go). Couldn't really speculate. Probably will be Flitwick over Sprout I'd say.

4) Who will be the replacement Transfiguration Teacher?

5) Who will be the replacement Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher?
Fleur was speculated before? Don't really see that amounting to anything. Wouldn't suprise me if Harry is offered this post if he survives Voldemort in the end. I think it's far more likely than him actually becoming an Auror since that would just be a smack with the obvious stick.

[Dunky]

My questions:
1) Who will be the replacement Slytherin Head of House?
I think it's safe to assume Snape's not coming back...
This one's easy though, it's got to be Slughorn. He's had the post before and we've never heard of any other teacher who's from the house of S.

2) Who will be the replacement Griffindor Head of House?
Minerva's Headmaster now; so it'll have to be someone else. I've no idea on this. It can't be Sprout, Flitwick or Slughorn. I don't think it'll be Binns on acount of his ghostness. Trelawney never struck me as a Griffindor type. Hagrid seems like a good choice, though I'm not sure Minerva has quite the unfailing confidence in him that Dumbledore did.

3) Who will be the replacement Vice Principal?
I would've said Snape was next in line (even though he's quite young as the Hogwarts staff go). Couldn't really speculate. Probably will be Flitwick over Sprout I'd say.

4) Who will be the replacement Transfiguration Teacher?

5) Who will be the replacement Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher?
Fleur was speculated before? Don't really see that amounting to anything. Wouldn't suprise me if Harry is offered this post if he survives Voldemort in the end. I think it's far more likely than him actually becoming an Auror since that would just be a smack with the obvious stick.


Also; apparantly we're not going to have new characters introduced. I think it's also fairly safe to assume OotP-ers won't be teaching at Hogwarts since it'll be all out war on Vold. Hmmm...

[comp.dead]

Yeah, it was very predictable. As soon as I heard that someone else was going to die I knew it was Dumbledore.
He had to die, he was to protective of Harry.

I knew either dumbledor or Hagrid. My mom though Harry would die *Chuckles smugly*

[Sabrina13]

I didn't think there was a thread on this. I love Harry Potter! I don't want the seventh book to come out because all we'll have to look forward to is the movie, and they suck! *Cries*

[V_Translanka]

You could always read...*shock*...other books! Or maybe even Rowling will continue to write non-Potter books...

[AmishOpiate]

You could always read...*shock*...other books! Or maybe even Rowling will continue to write non-Potter books...

I wouldn't if I were her, I mean, she has to have enough money to buy the UK by now, what's the point in working? Besides, nothing else she writes will ever be as good as Harry. Not saying she doesn't have a couple of good books left in her, but they will all die by comparison to the Potter series.

[charliepanayi]

Whether they'll be any good or not, or be doomed to be forever compared to Harry Potter, I think JK Rowling has said that she'll continue to write after the series is done - but who knows, maybe she'll end up another Harper Lee or JD Salinger, who just decides to quit while they're ahead. I think she might keep going though.

[Dunky]

JK Rowling is pretty arrogant, so I doubt she'll go anywhere soon.

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

I heard that if she is going to write other books she might write childrens books as in like that Lady Bird crap.

[V_Translanka]

I wouldn't mind seeing her write something more mature since the Potter books themselves have evolved into something that I would no longer classify as "Children's books"...Perhaps such epics don't come all the time, and that's well and good, I'm sure, but I wouldn't mind reading more of her...

[Earl Of Slander]

In an interview a couple of days back, Rowling has said she's considering killing off Mr. Potter so that once she dies nobody can ever bring him back to life. This makes me think that once these 7 books are over, the prospect of any other Harry Potter work is out of the question.

She also spoiled that at least two major characters will die.

[V_Translanka]

Well, you'd almost have to imagine, the way people have been dying so far...It's like the person to have died in the last three books have continually grown in importance to Harry's life...Although I suppose you could argue Sirius over Dumbledore...Maybe...My money's on Hermoine, Ron, or perhaps Ginny...And it'll come down to a sacrifice, just like his mother.

[Earl Of Slander]

I've always held the theory about Harry being the last Horcrux so that's still a possibility.

And I'd vote for Ron's father dying somewhere along the line, and I think that Snape is probably in on something way bigger than Voldemort knows. I think he's really with Dumbeldore and the whole thing was staged to have Voldemort think Dumbeldore died. After all, old Albus isn't easily fooled by anybody.

[Paradise of Birds]

In an interview a couple of days back, Rowling has said she's considering killing off Mr. Potter so that once she dies nobody can ever bring him back to life. This makes me think that once these 7 books are over, the prospect of any other Harry Potter work is out of the question.

She also spoiled that at least two major characters will die.

No, I hope she wont. that would really spoil the whole story.
it was enough killing cedric and Albus, who I loved both.:(

[V_Translanka]

Personally, I thought there was something amiss in the death of Albus...

Oh, and I totally found out how it's all going to end...Harry's going to grow up and marry Lisa Simpson, apparently...>_>

[Deathspank]

I like the Philospher's stone the best.

It's one of the best ones.As the books proceded,they got worse and worse.Poor J.K. Rowling,I suspect she's running out of idea's.

The only reason I'm getting the final installment is because I have to see what happens to Harry.

[Paradise of Birds]

Personally, I thought there was something amiss in the death of Albus...

Oh, and I totally found out how it's all going to end...Harry's going to grow up and marry Lisa Simpson, apparently...>_>


Who's Lisa Simpson?:confused:

[V_Translanka]

http://www.aavc.vassar.edu/vq/spring2002/articles/images/features/media/lisa-simpson_sax.jpg

I was talking about the episode of the Simpsons when J.K. Rowling makes an appearance and she says that to Lisa when she asks what happens at the end of the series..."He grows up and marries you, is that what you want to hear?!?"...Good stuff...

[Ex-Soldier]

I like the Philospher's stone the best.

It's one of the best ones.As the books proceded,they got worse and worse.Poor J.K. Rowling,I suspect she's running out of idea's.

The only reason I'm getting the final installment is because I have to see what happens to Harry.


yeahg i agree it was kind of better then part 4,5,6...

J.K Rowling just keeps on killing people to keep our intrest....

[Nicola]

yeahg i agree it was kind of better then part 4,5,6...

J.K Rowling just keeps on killing people to keep our intrest....

I think the Philosopher's Stone and Chamber of Secrets we the worst in the series. They were great when they first came out, but now the other ones have come out I can't find it in me to re-read them too. I like the more adult themes in the later books. It's a bit tiring reading about an eleven year old, you know? Not much to relate too and all that. I can't remember for the life of me being eleven.

The first two are too short, and essentially plot driven - I want more character development, I want to care for the characters. I like the sub-plots, I like the exploration into different locations. PS and CoS are similar to one another and the format slightly changed from PoA and from then onwards.

J.K. also had difficulty writing the first two books, and they were her first novels. It took her nine years to complete PS, and she suffered from writers block in CoS - it shows too.

Half-Blood Prince is brilliant. I love it. I love the darker themes, the exploration into Voldemort's past and the realistic ever growing grittiness of the world that Harry is getting into (the fact that Draco has to murder Dumbledore is an example of this). It's not play time anymore. It's serious. Whatever feuds there are it's not about deducting house points, it's a matter of life and death. Despite this, J.K. is still able to keep the humour up and put lighter themes in (the romance between Ron and Hermione for example). It's fantastic.

I don't want it to end! :D

[Nicola]

Excuse my double posting, but this thread hasn't seen any action for 8 months, and if I merely edit my last post the topic won't be bumped up, when I'm clearly posting to start up discussion again.

ANYWAY. Harry Potter month next month. :)

I've been reading the books in preparation and I haven't read the first ones in many, many years. I have them again and it's just so shocking what little bits she adds in these early novels that have significance later on. Mundungus Fletcher is mentioned in the first chapters of CoS for example, and the Vanishing Cabinet is broken by Peeves in in the middle of CoS when Harry is in Filch's office. The one that Draco has to then fix to get the death eaters into Hogwarts in HBP! She's so subtle, it's amazing. Do you think she planned it from the beginning, or went through her books to see if something fits with what she is about to do? She also mentions Sirius Black in the very first chapter of PS. Harry mentions again and again that he feels Snape and Dumbledore can read his mind, when it turns out later on they can tell when someone is lying because of Occlumency. Just subtle things that make a very interesting read after reading the whole of the series.

Anyway, anyone else preparing? :D

[Punishment]

I should read the novels again as my knowledge on these books have rusted away.

Neverthless I stand by my theory that Sirius isn't exactly dead. MAybe not even alive but definately not gone forever. No dead body meand no dead person. :)

I guess I'll start off with the Order of the Phoenix and then the Half Bolld Prince as I have only read these once.

[Celeste]

I'm still hoping something interesting regarding Sirius will happen, too, he's my favorite. :(...

As I was re-reading them all, I also noticed those bunches of little things that are important later, like Nicola said. Makes me think she did plan every little thing ahead.. That's a lot of planning. ^^;;

[V_Translanka]

I think that sometimes as a writer, you leave some little things about so that you can later play with them if the need arises or if you think it fits...Kind of like extra puzzle pieces, I guess? Although it could just be how the story tells itself and the realization comes later.

I don't know about Sirrius...As I recall, they never really explained all that much about what that thingy/place that he dissappeared into was...although this could just be my own dodgey memory...*shrugs*

[Nicola]

J.K. has said that Sirius is definitely dead. But like you say, not a lot has been explained about the veil, and J.K. has said there is more to come from the two way mirror that Sirius gave Harry, but that may just be a matter of giving one of his friends one of the mirrors.

[V_Translanka]

My guess is that he just straps one to the top of his shoe. That's what I'd...er...I mean, that's what some scarred up perv like him would do! Not me. >_>

[Zaden Star]

Ah yes my favorite out of the series is definetly the Order of the Phoenix, the whole abrupt school change with Umbridge, The Ministry battles, and how they're leaning the characters into more prone figures. IN book 5 Harry starts having wet dreams and in 6 Ron starts to give people the finger.

[Limit Break]

I go for Order of Phoenix, it got interesting there.

[Mythril Chocobo]

Is it alright to start talking about the finer points of DH or wait for other members to finish?

[Nicola]

I'm sure you can talk about DH. For members to come into a Harry Potter thread before tey have finished the book is verging on stupidity. If you do not feel comfortable, though, just put spoilers in spoiler tags. I'm sure anyone that comes on here has already finished it though.

[Maggotier]

Yup, I finished it yesterday at about 3:40am (couldn't stop)
Loved the Deathly Hallows, definately the best book so far, I felt like the book started to get really good about half-way through and then at the last 100 pages it was just brilliant.
I was so overcome with emotion at the end of the book I didn't know wether I was happy or sad! I was so sad that it had ended but I was so happy because of the ending and the conclusion, it was a very nice touch :)

What do u reckon they did with Voldemorts body??

[Nicola]

I don't know. We will have to wait until J.K. publishes the encyclopedia. It supposed to have everything on all the characters. Mini biographies, as such. We will be waiting a while for it though.

I was actually very disappointed in the book, as was many people that I spoken to irl. I just really loved the last 100 pages, from the chapter 'The Lost Diadom' onwards. I swear, if that Battle of Hogwarts thing didn't happen, I might have cried from how bad the book was. :( It really did save the entire book.

I didn't like the adventures to Godric's Hollow, or to Gringotts, or them just pinning up a tent in different forests every other page.

Things I liked about this book:
* Snape. Snape's chapter. Snape's existence. Snape.
* Kreacher becoming all nice.
* Ron freaking out, asking his friends to show LV some respect (WEIRD!) and them him leaving. That was great, I was really hoping he would never come back.
* Snape.
* Hermione being the true best friend that Harry could ever have. (Harry made a big deal out of Ron saving his life, but Hermione did it about 10 times).
* Neville standing up to Voldemort, and then beheading Nagini.
* Bellatrix talking to Voldemort like a lover (ROFL).
* Snape.
* The Malfoy family caring more for each other than Voldemort's cause. Particularly liked them huddled together at the end not knowing whether they should be there. Narcissa telling everyone that Harry was dead. Lucius and Narcissa not even trying to fight, but screaming for their son, etc. I really loved the Malfoy family in this book.
* Ron's single decent moment in the whole series (I don't like him, by the way). Punching Malfoy in the face saying that's the second time they had saved him. Also Ron screaming 'I WILL KILL YOU IF WE DIE FOR THEM!'
* PotterWatch Radio Station
* Snape.
* Harry telling Lupin off big time. You go, Harry!
* Harry senselessly outwitting Voldemort in their final showdown.
* McGonagall shrieking when she thought Harry was dead.
* George - 'holey'.
* Snape.
* Voldemort flying. Wicked!
* Harry explaining to Ron that he loves Hermione like a sister.
* Snape's silver Doe.
* The Battle of Hogwarts.
* Snape.

Things I didn't like:
I hated many things, but one thing comes out more than any other:
* Snape dying.

[Zoryan]

My favourite book was the last one. Loved it so much I finished it Sunday at 0:16 (unfortunately I had work to do and I only got my hands on the book on Saturday at lunch time :( I thought Snape's chapter was BRILLIANT, the final HPvsLV was absolutely fantastic (the way he outspeaks Voldemort O.O), Ron leaving to come back later, Harry saying he loves Hermione like a sister, and even knowing a bit more about the younger and darker Dumbledore :D would have loved to have a bigger "nineteen years later" chapter but then you can't have everything :(
It was a thrilling book imo, and the final battle was stunning. My wish was granted- Hermione and Ron lived, and Harry stayed with Ginny :P so I was actually happy with the ending (most stories have dark sad endings- nice to find a good long (7 books lol) gripping novel with a happy ending :))

[DrBernie]

Yah i agree, i really liked the way all the characters came back for the final showdown! I just love that in finales :D Also having the 19 years later completes a series in such a nice way i feel. Otherwise i feel incomplete... craving more.
Although Harry could have chosen less obvious names for his children

EDIT:

I also agree that this book ould have been shit if not for the ending.
It dragged on a bit too slowly in the first half and the end went very quickly.

I also Liked the whole thing about Snape... i always thought that Dumbledore had asked Snape to kill him.

Also Dumbledore's thing was good but a tad too long.

Overall i liked this book and it was an excellent finale!

[Acrimoniously Challenged]

Did anyone else hear that Dumbeldore was gay. Him and Grindelwald were getting it on during that summer of theirs!

[Black Velveteen]

I would either say Half-Blood Prince or Goblet of Fire. I thought Goblet of Fire was really exciting, and a lot more was happening than in the inaugural three.
On the other hand, the 6th one started going onto Voldermort's past and a whole new, more in-depth adventure was beginning to unravel.

[Sensi Hawso]

My favourite in the series was "Order of the Phoenix". It seemed to me the first book that really incorporated the story with a whole bunch of action. Books 1-4 seemed to be lacking this factor a bit. I mean, every book was basically the same stucture - minor events in the summer (except for the Qudditch world cup in book 4 I suppose, there was a dash of action there), go back to school, discover something that will drive the plot, finish the school year, have a face off with Voldemort or one of his cronies, go home for the summer.
Book 5 seemed less concerned with the whole school aspect of Hogwarts and instead focused on the plot throughout. Dementors attacked that summer, gets expelled, but goes back to school and has evil teacher who is intent on scarring him, is branded a crazy madman, snake attacks in the outside world, builds own army, fliesm weird black leather horse things to central London, ohh interesting prophecy, someone more intersting that Cedric Diggory dies, wizard duel Dumbledore V Voldemort, wizarding world is made aware of the master of evil's return, or and Harry, to add an extra twist, you or Voldemort are going to have to die.
That's a nice bit of action in my opinion. :)
Book 6 was extremly interesting but lacked the energy of the 5th.
As I said before, book 5 was my favourite, though that was until I read Deathly Hallows, plenty going on there to keep me interested. :D

[Hydro]

I would have to say the last two.

I couldn't put either of them down and for me that makes an amazing book. I would be falling asleep and trying to stay up just to read it. I think it was mostly because Dumbledore was in it more and the 7th book was so dark and different from all the rest.

I did not enjoy the 5th book because i found that it dragged on and there was not enough action in it at all. The only reason it was there was to explain how nobody believed Harry about the "rebirth" of Voldamort. I found it to be useful, but not enjoyable to read. I guess it needed to be there to complete the series and demonstrate the emotions of Harry. However I did like the introduction of Luna Lovegood.

[konoha9tails]

I liked the Last two books..
Voldemort's demise was a bit pathetic though..

the most "boring"... I have to say.. the 5th book...
(and i felt it became worse because of the movie..)

[Nicola]

Voldemort's demise was dramatic and kick arse! I don't know what you are on. I mean, I know it was a battle of wits, but Harry pwned Voldemort completely on all scores.

That poll needs updating. DH exists now.

The last third of Deathly Hallows was brilliant, but before that it was very slow paced with the trio simply moving camping site on a regular basis. I wasn't sure about the DH side-quest, and got a bit fed up with Harry obsessing over Dumbledore.

The battle of Hogwarts onwards just kicks arse. It has everything. It has Neville being a BAMF, Snape's story, Molly Weasley yelling 'BITCH' Ripley style, and Voldemort is made to look really sTooPid. It's great. This excludes the epilogue. Which really sucked.

[Mizuu]

My fav books are Azkaban and the last book.
I really love Loena! And I felt so sad when Black died.
Harry Potter FTW!
To bad here's only 7 books and the end, about the whole "... years later" part.
I thought that was a bit lame, who married who and stuff, it didn't have a purpose imo.

[Nicola]

Who is Loena? Do you mean Luna?

I felt bad about Sirius' death as well. I was so depressed, my dad caught me crying to myself and gave me a cuddle 'Did she upset you, did she?' (she being J.K.) and I nodded and sobbed. It's the most shameful point of my life! I cringe remembering it! I didn't cry when the other deaths came along. I guess Sirius took all the grief. I wasn't even bothered about Dumbledore. Dobby made my eyes well up. And of course I was very upset about Snape. :(

[Hydro]

I almost cried when Hedwig died. It was so uncalled for.

[Nicola]

I thought it was necessary. Harry has to go around and hide throughout the rest of the book. Quite difficult with a big white bird flapping over your head. She had to go. :(

[AmishOpiate]

I thought it was necessary. Harry has to go around and hide throughout the rest of the book. Quite difficult with a big white bird flapping over your head. She had to go. :(

I agree to a certain extent, but the way she died was way overstated. I haven't read the book in ages, but I think first she got zapped by a wand, then she fell of the broom, then her cage exploded.

The same thing could have been accomplished by just having Harry leave her at the Burrow.

[Nicola]

Technically, yes, but not symbolically. Harry had to totally detach himself from the Dursley's, and Hedwig was the last connection between his home life and school life.

She didn't fall of the broom, I think Harry sacrificed her dead body and dropped her on purpose. I don't remember why.

[Féinbuailithóir]

It was a thrilling book imo, and the final battle was stunning.

I actually found the battle between Mrs.Weasley and Bellatrix more exciting! It was amazing to see good aul Molly in action! No?

[Nicola]

Good news HP fans - J.K. is giving The Tales of Beedle the Bard a general release in November. :love: :love:

For some reason, I didn't expect a general release. Der. It's probably going to charity.

It's being released in December. Amazon has two editions. One is a standard, which costs £3.99, the other is a collecters edition, and it's ridiculously priced at £50. :angry: It might be a good investment though...


EDIT: I've ordered the Collecter's Edition... just in case I can afford it when the time comes. It actually has some cool extras, and it might be worth quite a bit in the future, so I'm going for it. :thumbsup:

[DrBernie]

I bet that you will keep the Collector's edition until it's price is doubled, then become too attached to sell it :)

As for Death's, Dobby's and Hedwig's were by far the most depressing for me, I never actually felt much when Sirius died. Dumbledore's death was very confusing and I didn't know what to feel and Fred's (or was it George..?) received an "Oh. That was unexpected" reaction from me.

Total agreement with Mrs Weasley vs Bellatrix, it was a wonderful moment :)

[Nicola]

I bet that you will keep the Collector's edition until it's price is doubled, then become too attached to sell it :)

No, I'll buy the normal version and use that one to read. I would let go of the other one very easily.

[Dunky]

So... was Harry a Horcrux in the end?

[Nicola]

Yes, Harry was a horcrux.

Another bit of news. J.K. has actually released a short story about James and Sirius, set three years before Harry's birth. It's in an anthology of short stories for charity. It went straight to number one in the book charts, though every book chain has sold out. Der!

The anthology is called 'What's the Story?' or something along those lines. Yeah, you'd think that I would know, but I don't.

[Dunky]

It's What's Your Story? And she'll never let go.
I also think she's been deliberately vague about Harry's parents' activities after Hogwarts and before their deaths though. I hope this prequel is the end of all the Potter madness though. Do something new!

[Nicola]

I found the story. Aren't I nice?

The speeding motorcycle took the sharp corner so fast in the darkness that both policemen in the pursuing car shouted 'Whoa!' Sergeant Fisher slammed his large foot on the brake, thinking that the boy who was riding pillion was sure to be flung under his wheels; however, the motorbike made the turn without unseating either of its riders, and with a wink of its red tail lights, vanished up the narrow side street.

'We've got 'em now!' cried P C Anderson excitedly. 'That's a dead end!'

Leaning hard on the steering wheel and crashing his gears, Fisher scraped half the paint off the flank of the car as he forced it up the alleyway in pursuit.

There in the headlights sat their quarry, stationary at last after a quarter of an hour's chase. The two riders were trapped between a towering brick wall and the police car, which was now crawling towards them like some growling, luminous-eyed predator.

There was so little space between the car doors and the walls of the alley that Fisher and Anderson had difficulty extricating themselves from the vehicle. It injured their dignity to have to inch, crab-like, towards the miscreants. Fisher dragged his generous belly along the wall, tearing buttons off his shirt as he went, and finally snapping off the wing mirror with his backside.

'Get off the bike!' he bellowed at the smirking youths, who sat basking in the flashing blue light as though enjoying it.

They did as they were told. Finally pulling free from the broken wing mirror, Fisher glared at them. They seemed to be in their late teens. The one who had been driving had long black hair; his insolent good looks reminded Fisher unpleasantly of his daughter's guitar-playing, layabout boyfriend. The second boy also had black hair, though his was short and stuck up in all directions; he wore glasses and a broad grin. Both were dressed in T-shirts emblazoned with a large golden bird; the emblem, no doubt, of some deafening, tuneless rock band.

'No helmets!' Fisher yelled, pointing from one uncovered head to the other. 'Exceeding the speed limit by—by a considerable amount!' (In fact, the speed registered had been greater than Fisher was prepared to accept that any motorcycle could travel.) 'Failing to stop for the police!'

'We'd have loved to stop for a chat,' said the boy in glasses, 'only we were trying—'

'Don't get smart—you two are in a heap of trouble!' snarled Anderson. 'Names!'

'Names?' repeated the long-haired driver. 'Er—well, let's see. There's Wilberforce...Bathsheba...Elvendork...'

'And what's nice about that one is, you can use it for a boy or a girl,' said the boy in glasses.

'Oh, our names, did you mean?' asked the first, as Anderson spluttered with rage. 'You should've said! This here is James Potter, and I'm Sirius Black!'

'Things'll be seriously black for you in a minute, you cheeky little—'

But neither James nor Sirius was paying attention. They were suddenly as alert as gun dogs, staring past Fisher and Anderson, over the roof of the police car, at the dark mouth of the alley. Then, with identical fluid movements, they reached into their back pockets.

For the space of a heartbeat both policemen imagined guns gleaming at them, but a second later they saw that the motorcyclists had drawn nothing more than—

'Drumsticks?' jeered Anderson. 'Right pair of jokers, aren't you? Right, we're arresting you on a charge of—'

But Anderson never got to name the charge. James and Sirius had shouted something incomprehensible, and the beams from the headlights had moved.

The policemen wheeled around, then staggered backwards. Three men were flying—actually flying—up the alley on broomsticks—and at the same moment, the police car was rearing up on its back wheels.

Fisher's knees bucked; he sat down hard; Anderson tripped over Fisher's legs and fell on top of him, as flump—bang—crunch—they heard the men on brooms slam into the upended car and fall, apparently insensible, to the ground, while broken bits of broomstick clattered down around them.

The motorbike had roared into life again. His mouth hanging open, Fisher mustered the strength to look back at the two teenagers.

'Thanks very much!' called Sirius over the throb of the engine. 'We owe you one!'

'Yeah, nice meeting you!' said James. 'And don't forget: Elvendork! It's unisex!'

There was an earth-shaking crash, and Fisher and Anderson threw their arms around each other in fright; their car had just fallen back to the ground. Now it was the motorcycle's turn to roar. Before the policemen's disbelieving eyes, it took off into thin air: James and Sirius zoomed away into the night sky, their tail light twinkling behind them like a vanishing ruby.

[Dunky]

Nice that someone in the Harry Potter universe is finally making fun of Serious's name.

[Nicola]

Nice that someone in the Harry Potter universe is finally making fun of Serious's name.

Ha ha! I didn't notice that on my first read! There were a few amusing bits, but of course, it had no substance to it whatsoever. But then, that was pretty much what I was expecting.

[Spike Marshall]

That is legitimately terrible writing on Rowling's part.

[Mord Sith]

What...the hell. What age group is this aimed at? I'm not sure if it can excuse the terrible writing, but it might make more sense if this was for a much younger audience.

[Nicola]

I recognised it as her exact style. She always writes like that, it's just less easy to forgive when we are totally detached from the story.

I think it was written for a children's charity volume, I'm not 100% sure. The story was written on a postcard.

[Mord Sith]

Bloody hell, I must have simply been just swept away in the HP fever not to recognise that she writes that badly. Surely it was never that bad?

[Nicola]

I lost count of the amount of times she used the 'but so and so never found out what so and so thought of this, as a huge truck just swept so and so away,' throughout the series.

Yea, this:

'Drumsticks?' jeered Anderson. 'Right pair of jokers, aren't you? Right, we're arresting you on a charge of—'

But Anderson never got to name the charge.

[Dunky]

It was probably rape or murder, knowing those boys. Seriously, she should have just expanded on the epilogue. I don't even by the for charity tripe. She's mindlessly self indulgent. Come on, "insolent good looks". She's swooning over her own characters.

[Nicola]

It was probably rape or murder, knowing those boys. Seriously, she should have just expanded on the epilogue. I don't even by the for charity tripe. She's mindlessly self indulgent. Come on, "insolent good looks". She's swooning over her own characters.

That's a bit over the top, isn't it? :sweat: I think James and Sirius were in character, and that's that, but it was a strange selection. Would have been better if she chose characters that we knew well. I just thought of Fred and George whilst reading that story - the piece is just incredibly empty. Both prose and content. She's still doing the "fat and stupid" character joke. A few bits did raise a few smirks from me though.

[Dunky]

;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7838Z0EhXFc&NR=1

"His eyes seemed to say" hahaha!