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Tine
02-14-2006, 11:17 AM
Ok, what is the deal with this game? Why do people call it so BAD and slag it off so much?

Ok, its graphics are kinda cute. But the story is rather appealling and the games tend to take a more serious twist like fighting with Team Rocket at parts in the game.

you could say the characters are uber-cute, and it is obvious that when the games were first published that they were designed generally for the younger age range, but if you look at the later editions of the Pokemon games then you will see the monsters themselves have grown less cute and slowly turned to look alot more serious.

I know its and odd conversation, but I have wondered this for a while, and I wanted some opinions. Discuss your opinions on Pikachu and pals.

Rag
02-14-2006, 11:33 AM
I can't believe you thought this was Library material.

The original Pokemon games have never been bad. They were pretty addictive. It's just the cartoons and movies and legions of obsessed children that are irritating.

I'm actually tempted to get one of the later Pokemon games, since the only one I've played was Pokemon Red, and that was great. Maybe if a good one turns up for the DS.

bond4154
02-14-2006, 11:53 AM
Pokemon is actually a more original concept in terms of video games and anime. It's good and solid, despite its kiddy-theme. And it has always been. However, like almost all popular and overrated games and anime, it has a time where it dies down and is ridiculed by everyone.

Ariel
02-14-2006, 01:03 PM
The series peaked with Gold/Silver/Crystal. Whilst Emerald Version is admittedly good, G/S/C had the longest quest, the most to do and the most novel things like the radio and night/day and whatnot. Though right now I still deeply love Emerald version (it's my favourite out of the GBA collection) I still have a fond nostalgia for Crystal version.

Though the games appear cute and kiddy at face value they always rope me in, they just have this addictive aura around them. Particularly when you have friends to play against and the whole concept of breeding to get the best stats and nature comes into a compelling world of it's own.

Tine
02-14-2006, 01:12 PM
Though the games appear cute and kiddy at face value they always rope me in, they just have this addictive aura around them. Particularly when you have friends to play against and the whole concept of breeding to get the best stats and nature comes into a compelling world of it's own.

Yes...I know the feeling...at 17 I still like the games...I'm playing Emerald at the moment, training for the battle frontier...17 and still play tose games which I have played since I was 11...wow It's been a long time.

~SapphireStar~
02-14-2006, 01:12 PM
I think I still have Pokemon Red knocking around somewhere. The games were wicked and they did become addictive, you just had to keep going and collecting more. I think people slated it because they either didnt understand it or seen it as childish and to an adult, thats a bad thing. I was tormented so much for liking Pokemon in high school that I stopped playing it or even showing an interest in it.

But now I think it was childish of them to pick on someone who enjoys something they dont and I still like Pokemon, not as much as I use to, but its still a great brand of games.

General Beelze
02-14-2006, 03:13 PM
Yea I like Pokémon and I'm a senior in High School. Almost everyone in school knows I'm random and very apathitic, so they can't make fun of me. Hell I have people coming up behind me and saying "Kill it, kill it, kill it, hurry up and kill it" at almost every random encounter. I'm not the only senior that plays Pokémon either. I'm not even the best senior Poké battler either. I got beat by a sophemore.

Eddie
02-14-2006, 06:11 PM
I have/had Red, Green and Yellow when they first came out and I thought they kicked ass. I also got Silver imported before it came out and thought they were amazing, they are easy to slag since their cartoon and the cards werent that great, but the games themselves were great and I still play them from time to time for that old time feeling. Even though they started out childish like they still were great games and I probably liked them because they were like final fantasy (leveling up etc) they storyline were always very basic but still, good to play.

Scott
02-14-2006, 06:16 PM
the games are good, the programme is gettin old but the movies are good.

I have pretty much mixed feeling about pokemon its a really good game/show but dont you think they're gona run out of ideas for pokemon pretty soon?

Ill still collect the games for entertainment purposes but i dont think pokemon will last much longer,

pux
02-14-2006, 06:30 PM
The beginning, the first games..I was addicted as hell. They were very fun. They're aging pretty bad by now, I think there's like 1000 pokemon, it just went nuts at one point, and it's still going in Japan, so that's about it..it's a show for Japanese kids by this point in my eyes.

Grand Master Davo
02-14-2006, 06:42 PM
I played the pokemon games about 6 years ago. I was addicted to red and blue for ages and got silver imported before it came out then. Got all 151 on my red game. Found some knob in my school at the time with a mew to finish it off and was proud as hell (which I now look back on wondering what the fuck was wrong with you , you stupid prattish prat).
Nowadays I would be embarrassed to even say the word pokemon in most situations as it's dropped in popularity greatly. I got leaf green sent to me on me computer and tried playin it recently. But for one thing i'll say that if I never played pokemon i'd not have bothered looking into final fantasy. It was only when I heard they shared certain ideas that I decided what the hell and went and saw a mates FF7 and fell in love quickly and bought ff8 the next day. I have pokemon to thank for introducing that so im happy with it.

Emerl
02-14-2006, 06:58 PM
The games are still great, it's just everything else that's died. The G/S are the best of the series with the going to both reigons and the night and day thing added something more to it, i dont know why they took that out. I hope they keep the gaming up with the DS versions (and put the day/night back in :D)
The spin off games weren't as good though.

Scott
02-14-2006, 07:03 PM
You know what i really h8 about pokemon, its the stupid rubbish Collesiums and gale of darkness follows close suite to it.

why cant they do a fully 3d version of thing like pokemon blue,red right upto sapphire and ruby on the GC instead of the rubbish they're pouring into it.

A full 3d version with added feature would be a hell of alot better than the collesium crap

Placid Heart
02-14-2006, 09:57 PM
I liked the fact that in Gold/Silver games you could get 16 badges instead of just 8.

Erofiat
02-15-2006, 02:50 AM
I'm putting much hope into the new upcoming ones. (aka diamond/pearl)

They're planning to use the Wi-Fi function for online play.(WHICH IS ONE THING POKE'MON DESPERATELY NEEDED.)

I've been around the poke'mon thing for a while now. The games are pretty great. In fact, It still remains as my most played GB/A games.

Placid Heart
02-15-2006, 02:51 AM
I'm putting much hope into the new upcoming ones. (aka diamond/pearl)

They're planning to use the Wi-Fi function for online play.(WHICH IS ONE THING POKE'MON DESPERATELY NEEDED.)

I've been around the poke'mon thing for a while now. The games are pretty great. In fact, It still remains as my most played GB/A games.

wait are you seroius ? wifi for pokemon is gonna be awesome !!!

Tine
02-15-2006, 11:56 AM
I'm putting much hope into the new upcoming ones. (aka diamond/pearl)

They're planning to use the Wi-Fi function for online play.(WHICH IS ONE THING POKE'MON DESPERATELY NEEDED.)

I've been around the poke'mon thing for a while now. The games are pretty great. In fact, It still remains as my most played GB/A games.

W,w,wi-fi??? You're serious???
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is gonna get good.
If so, when Diamond and Pearl do go wi-fi, we should definitely start a thread on it to swap friend codes and battle and trade etc. Though, thtas it they have wi-fi. We have to be sure first. *begins praying*

What you guys think?

Lord Mark
02-15-2006, 03:58 PM
It is a very solid and good RPG, as previous mentioned. I played most of the versions and liked each one. Not that I collect merchandise or watch the cartoon >_>

D.A.N.
02-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Pokemon is very well done, however, after Gold & Silver the design of the Pokemon wasn't as innovative and looked rather odd, but Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green are still strong, even being remakes.

Diamond & Pearl for DS are confirmed to have WI-Fi, which is a godsend, and tons of new litle critters.

I actually went years playing the game without seeing the anime or a movie, I do'nt watch too much TV, let alone whatever network it was on, either way, Pokemon is fun, but it just gets a bit annoying when 9 year olds claim it's the best game ever.

rudra
02-19-2006, 09:03 PM
Pokemon is fucking sweet.

I own:
Blue
Yellow
Pinball
Silver
Snap
Ruby
and a ton of cards.


I've enjoyed Pokemon since the beginning, back in sixth grade, I'm not afraid to admit that at all. Watched the show, all that jazz. We'd always have to smuggle our gameboys in and sneak them out to recess; we had some epic linkup battles. Also played a lot of the card game, I stopped after my entire fighting deck was stolen. Before that, I'd owned every single card with the exception of Venusaur. I thought the card was a ton of fun, it actually got me semi-interested in Magic, for awhile.

I didn't really play Pokemon in junior high, but picked it back up my Freshman year in high school; I picked up Silver off ebay for like five bucks. I did a lot of travelling, so it gave me something to do, I didn't really care for it.

Then my junior year, Ruby and Sapphire came out. Wow, they were the best ones yet. I played Ruby intensely for about 6 months, I thought it was a terrific game. I didn't like, however, the whole hidden levels (Ev's and shit), it honestly made the whole game too monotonous, so I stopped playing.

Good times with Pokemon.

I haven't played anything past Ruby.


Has anyone played Gale of Darkness for the Gamecube?

D.A.N.
02-19-2006, 09:47 PM
I played Gale of Darkness, it's nothing different from the sucky Colloseum games, it lasts for such a small amount of time, then entertainment factor goes down the drain.

If there's one thing I'd like to see, ti's a god console Poke game, aside from Puzzle League.

Daryl
02-20-2006, 03:52 PM
I like the Pokemon games. The GBC ones were the best I think. The GBA ones are OK but not as good as the GBC. Gold is my particular favourite.

I also own Stadium and XD: Gale of Darkness for my GameCube. They are great fun too.

Ænorexorcist
03-13-2006, 12:06 PM
I've played the Blue, Yellow, and Silver versions of the game, but I've never really played anything else. Silver was one of my favorite RPGs for the GBC, mainly because it was just so huge. I loved being able to explore the world from the original games, which was a feature I certainly didn't expect. The 3 legendary dog Pokemon were also exciting to try and hunt down. I wish I knew where my copy of the Silver edition was, because I had so much stuff on there, (Even a Pikachu with the "Surf" ability, which I obtained from Pokemon Stadium, which was also a very fun game).

Tine
04-03-2006, 11:22 AM
Has anyone played Gale of Darkness for the Gamecube?

Yes.

The game is good, and has a decent-ish story mode, but the best things in the game come from completing it. It's a good game, though it doesn't last all that long, which is a major bummer. The best thing about it is the Shadow Pokemon you can trade from it onto the GBA games, to help with the Pokedex. Still a good game though.

Chibi_Pyrefly
04-03-2006, 12:14 PM
They need to make a really solid Pokemon rpg... not like the GB ones, which are good, but lack any personality...
Anywho... the Gale of Darkness looked good, but I haven't had any possession of the gamecube in a long while...

Yawn
04-06-2006, 01:04 PM
Yeah, it was fun a few years ago until they introduced a few hundred more creatures to catch and/or observe. It's became a huge franchise now and nobody seems to buy the cards these days.

Egnar
04-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Yeah, it was fun a few years ago until they introduced a few hundred more creatures to catch and/or observe. It's became a huge franchise now and nobody seems to buy the cards these days.
Thats pretty much how I feel. . .I liked it fine at 150 pokemon and had a huge set of every card in the first series, which being 9-10 years old I was very proud of. With gold/silver I was upset with the introduction of the next 100 pokemon and the fact that 1 half of the game was exactly the same as blue/red, I quit with the release of crystal/ruby after playing through blue yellow and gold. I think I stopped collecting the cards when the dark series came out, 4th of them in America I believe?

If there's one thing I'd like to see, ti's a god console Poke game, aside from Puzzle League.
I loved Puzzle League, it was one of those games you didn't really need to be familiar with Pokemon to play so I could still play it with my friends who weren't so big into it. I used to have alot of fun just trying to get the biggest combo possible against a computer.

There was also Pokemon Snap which was a nice novely for a few days, Hello Pikachu which was a horrible idea in itself, though, my sister seemed to love it and the Trading Card game of which I was extremly fond of back then.

D90
04-06-2006, 03:25 PM
I've never heard anyone bad-mouth the games.
The games were always fun.

That is, until you grow out of the whole idea of Pokemon itself.

Dhóchas
04-06-2006, 03:27 PM
I've loved the game ever since the first were released. I've bought each and every game since, and I still play them, almost everyday. I think they're magnificent RPG games, and people who dismiss it as a game for losers can lick my wet spot, and enjoy it.

Egnar
04-06-2006, 03:47 PM
I've never heard anyone bad-mouth the games.
The games were always fun.

That is, until you grow out of the whole idea of Pokemon itself.
I don't think people grow out of Pokemon because they get to old or anything of the sort. Rather, I think what happened to Pokemon is the same thing that happened to popular television shows, like Power Rangers. Everyone starts off liking something and then thinking it's a good idea the companies decide to change core ideas or add things that don't really stick to what made people love the show/game in the first place. For Pokemon, in my opinion, it was the fact that the newer monsters they introduced started to lack the originality and care that had been apparently given to the first 150.

Yoshimitsu27
04-06-2006, 04:05 PM
The games are still great, it's just everything else that's died. The G/S are the best of the series with the going to both reigons and the night and day thing added something more to it, i dont know why they took that out. I hope they keep the gaming up with the DS versions (and put the day/night back in :D)
The spin off games weren't as good though.


For the record, G/S were not that great. Because they put Kanto back in, Johto had too little development, so the towns and routes were very badly thought out, and most thought went into Kanto instead.

Ruby and Sapphire only had the one region to work with, so it could be sorted out to the best it could be.

Colosseum and XD weren't that great. That's all I have to say there.

Dhóchas
04-06-2006, 04:10 PM
"Gale of Darkness" was not a real RPG game. When first announced, I thought: "Yay, finally a real POKéMON game on a console" except that it wasn't. Not a bad game, but definitely not what I expected. What I want is a game like the the gameboy ones on a console.

Phaedra
04-06-2006, 05:16 PM
I only have Pokemon Crystal, yet it took me two years to finish because I had no idea what to do after the credits passed (it never occured to me to turn it off and on again, or press the 'B' button).

the_retard
04-06-2006, 08:03 PM
Pokemon is pathetic. It's so easy that I can beat it and I suck so bad it isnt even funny.

Egnar
04-06-2006, 08:07 PM
Pokemon was never ment to be an exceptionally hard game to beat. It's like a very primitive breeding game.

rudra
04-06-2006, 09:18 PM
It's as hard as you want it to be. For the really competitive/hardcore players, multiplayer's where it's at. That's where you start getting into EV's, IV's, breeding, personalities, movesets and stuff. That's when it stopped being fun for me.

Classic
04-06-2006, 10:20 PM
You know, its weird, I was just talking about this the other day with my friends, and we were thinkng about how, once you get past the tons of crap T.V. episodes and movies, down at the core, it is a very well made and well put together game. In fact, me and my other friend, recently picked them up and started playing them again. I am currently playing Ruby right now

Sai.
04-06-2006, 10:27 PM
I'll admit it. I still play the handheld games. Hell, I played Yellow today.

There's no denying greatness.

Egnar
04-06-2006, 10:55 PM
It's as hard as you want it to be. For the really competitive/hardcore players, multiplayer's where it's at. That's where you start getting into EV's, IV's, breeding, personalities, movesets and stuff. That's when it stopped being fun for me.
I always found the Multiplayer aspect the most fun. Mind you, I wasn't hardcore and I didn't go crazy over it but it was fun to try and make the strongest Pokemon. I had this strictly Defensive Chancy that would just sit in my line to waste my friends CP on their moves. . .She was a beauty.

Punishment
04-06-2006, 11:59 PM
It has been ten years and I still like PokeMon but I'm not as crazy about it as before. Yes G/S/C were it's magnificent years. Sadly all games go through that period in which it slowly dies. PokeMon has had a lasting legacy and I hope it continues. Water PokeMon were always my favorite. :P

Brad
04-08-2006, 10:45 AM
I used to like everything Pokemon. But now I hate everything except the games.

Emerald is fucking awesome, but I don't want to do Battle Frontier, it's such a bitch.